Talk:Modernism

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Begins mid-C18th in America and earlier in Europe 1500 is indeed way too early, but 1890(!!) is way too late, I would say. C17th is where I'd put the beginning for Europe, but later in America. There are good arguments for seeing Jonathan Edwards as a transitional figure - in many ways he very much retained a pre-Enlightenment view of the world, but already you begin to see an Englightenment worldview in some of his methodology, and even areas of interest (cf. his personal notebooks on such subjects as "The Mind", "Natural Science" and "Miscellanies"). So my vote is for late 1600s for beginning of modernism is Europe, and mid 1700s for the colonies. :) Atorrens 23:16, 1 May 2006 (PDT)

I got that date from Wikipedia, which, since this article relates to the Church and theology, it may not be the best resource. It sounds like you would have good stuff to add! I would encourage you to place some of this info in with the article even if it remains a stub. Thanks for helping me out here. JordanBarrett (talk) 23:30, 1 May 2006 (PDT)

Perhaps I'm wrong to tie modernism so closely with the Enlightenment project it springs from. Looks like your date could indeed be much better than my suggestion on this. I'm certainly not the expert on this. Can anyone else help clarify? --Atorrens 00:04, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

FYI, our article on Church history shows the "modern" church as 1798-1970, coming out of the Enlightenment church (1648-1789) and subsequently flowing into the Postmodern (post 1970). Also 1798 roughly coincides with the publications of Friedrich Schleiermacher which some see associated with the beginnings of modernism. However, I do see how Jonathan Edwards can be seen as transitional, but he was ahead of his time. If you allow Enlightenment to be separated from Modern, then I think what we have in Church history makes sense. :-) Just my $0.02. -- Gomarus 04:44, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

I think that makes more sense. I'll change the date to reflec the church history article. Thanks for everyone's input. JordanBarrett (talk) 08:48, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

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I saw that the Englightenment link goes to wikipedia. Do we want to leave that for now until we get more content on Theopedia's article? Just checking. JordanBarrett (talk) 11:45, 2 May 2006 (PDT)