Talk:Ipsissima vox

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Criticism about the critical arguments

The arguments against are so poor I'm almost tempted to remove them. They're phrased in such a way that they're going to strike doubt as it is in an unsuspecting layperson. JordanBarrett (talk) 01:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Jordan, your argument for the arguments being poor is worse. You don't just go around deleting arguments because you think they are phrased poorly. You improve them or you refute them. - R HokieRNB 13:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

For one, the above wasn't intended to be an argument. Two, I couldn't even think of a way to phrase them so that they'd sound better - if you can, be my guest. Three, and again (and in different words), I think they're so bad and misleading that I'd rather remove them and come up with some better counter-arguments. I'd never stoop so low to simply delete arguments I found to be bad. However, if I find them unhelpful and misleading, and no one else can think of a better replacement, I will consider removing such arguments. That's why I didn't delete them and offered my comment. I hope this makes more sense. JordanBarrett (talk) 17:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess what I'm asking is for you to articulate what is bad about them, rather than merely to state arbitrarily "these are bad arguments". - R HokieRNB 17:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll try and do that in the next few days. Despite it being Thanksgiving, I'm slammed with papers and thus research. To clarify, perhaps what I found to be "bad arguments" wasn't as much common sense as I thought. JordanBarrett (talk) 04:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)