Talk:Evolution

From Theopedia

"Most Christians accept what is known as micro-evolution: the understanding that some animal life has evolved in some regards within its own species, yet it does not allow that one species may evolve into another species. By contrast, macro-evolution contends that lower life species have given rise to higher species, such that mammals evolved from microscopic sea creatures, birds evolved from land animals, and humans and apes have a common ancestor, etc."

According to Creation Ministries International, this isn't entirely accurate: the issue isn't the size of the genetic change, but the direction of it. If genetic information could increase on a small (macro) scale, what stops it from turning one species into another, given millions of years? Creation Ministries International maintains that there is no genetic increase whatsoever, only decrease. Should this be changed? Or, does anyone with more knowledge in this area have anything to add?

http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2996 - see the argument about macro- vs. micro-evolution, near the bottom. --JoshuaC87 07:39, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point. But it would be good if we had a published citation rather than a weblink. Also you left out a key part of the claim. You said "only decrease" in genetic info, however, the quote reads "only sorted or decreased" which is a better position. --Gomarus 11:49, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. This information is published in the 2nd Appendix of "Refuting Evolution 2" by Jonathan Sarfati, pp. 223-4. --JoshuaC87 00:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Do we need to even worry about the science of these articles?

In my view, we don't even have to worry about the science involved in Creation research, and just let CreationWiki handle all that. We can cover the theological themes of these different views, such as its root in naturalism and such. That would take a huge burden off of us ;-). --Tom 16:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Theistic Evolution

I have read the statement of faith on this site and understand that it wishes to maintain a YEC point of view. I do however feel that theistic evolution should at least be mentioned as "What some other Christians believe". I cite both the RC church and the CofE as examples. quenched 17:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Theistic evolution, also known as "evolutionary creationism" is currently addressed in summary fashion under the main article Creationism. You, Chris, are free to make some adjustments in that summary if you see a need. It may well be that in time this should be supplemented with a separate article on "Theistic evolution" with more detail. Jim Ellis 19:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)