Talk:Charles Finney

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I don't get this sentence or what it was intended to say - here's the context - the confusing (and incomplete) sentence is in bold (also, the quotes don't line up).

... seemed to come in waves of liquid love." The next morning, he informed his first client of the day, "I have a retainer from the Lord Jesus Christ to plead his cause and I cannot plead yours. "Refusing to attend Princeton Seminary (or any seminary, for that matter).

JordanBarrett 12:58, 22 November 2005 (EST)

This report is highly biased and I believe slandering of Charles Finney

I would just like to comment that this article is obviously very biased against Charles Finney and I would say even slanderous . I do not think it accuratly represents Finny's theological teachings especially in the following paragraph.

""In Finney’s theology, God is not sovereign, man is not a sinner by nature, the atonement is not a true payment for sin, justification by imputation is insulting to reason and morality, the new birth is simply the effect of successful techniques, and revival is a natural result of clever campaigns."" .

Firsly I do not understand why it is in speech marks, it intially gave the impression that it was quoting Charles Finney in some way. Also I do not think this is at all Finney's teaching . I request that this article be rewritten with a more balanced take and this inaccurate article is removed.

Thanks, God bless, TrulyReformedMark 18:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Dear Sir, The current content of the article consists primarily of quotes from Dr. Michael Horton, a notable Reformed Theologian -- hence the quotation marks. The external links section lists other online resources which generally confirm the comments from Horton. Admittedly, the current content is derogatory and critical of Finney and his theology. It will likely remain largely critical since we view Finney's theology as basically unbiblical. If you have specific points that you feel are inaccurate, please provide proof of such and we will discuss it here. Thanks, Jim Ellis 18:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I'd like to present the following lecture by Charles Finney http://www.gospeltruth.net/1837LTPC entitled "SANCTIFICATION BY FAITH" in counter to the statement made by Dr. Michael Horton "the atonement is not a true payment for sin" . This lecture by Finney I think shows rather clearly that he does believe that the atonement is a true payment for sin . Thanks for the consideration, TrulyReformedMark 01:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)